I'm using Laticrete 317 unmodified floor and wall thinset mortar. This is an illustration of a barrier-free shower to provide great wheelchair access. "Nah, it's the other nucklehead's work we show. I've heard they are one of the most powerful! It looks like the correct fastener was used, but not the correct spacing. MikeInsert initially amusing but ultimately annoying catch phrase here. Please ask the Mods to change the title to "Kerdi wrongly installed" or something like that. you can't blame the product. The one learning curve for me was knowing how much kerdi I could get on there while the thinset was still wet enough. Bad installation? Help   I want to make sure that when I rebuild it, it is permanent. That is, anyone with a modicum of skill and technique should be able to install it. He just suggested that a waterproofing system didn't work. Seriously east to install but a bit on the expensive side. Schluter Kerdi Shower System vs Traditional Method. How long has Kerdi been in use? Schluter Kerdi 38 Inch x 60 Inch Shower Kit with 2 Inch PVC Flange, Stainless Steel Grate and Joint Sealant 4.7 out of 5 stars 73 $369.80 $ 369 . Edited 2/13/2009 11:50 pm ET by JonBlakemore. These types of shower pans are constantly getting a bad rap because of consistent failures. I am ok with strong reaction to the title. Basically, shower failure causes the water to go where it shouldn’t be going! Schluter has never claimed that thinset mortar is waterproof. I have been using this system for several years and have yet to have a failure. This is destined to fail! And you know me, I'm not usually a big fan of high-tech building materials. See more ideas about shower systems, schluter shower, bathrooms remodel. And then some. I never need even the remotest possibility of variation from spec to haunt me for whatever reason. and then goes on to state that's clearly not the case. The idea is to have nothing that is moisture sensitive or that can feed mold between the shower and the rest of your house. Ditra is not used in showers, it's a floor uncoupling/waterproof membrane. Many components come into play when building a watertight and waterproof tiled shower. For thine evil pales before that whichfoolish men call Justice.... Did I tell you that I went skiing with a number cruncher from Schlüter on Sunday? This shower is failing.. It’s not all bad housekeeping that makes your shower ugly, it comes from the bad construction behind the tile. Or use Kerdi on the walls of a tub surround. We did a hud project and the door guys forgot to cut the doors for the carpets. She (Margerite SP?) The entire Medicine Cabinet caved in because of the leak in his system that backed it! Heck, I might become a Schluter advocate after this experience. It took me all day to get half the shower out because I was disassembling it to find out, to the best of my ability, what went wrong. My fav is dbl 3/4". Some of the damage caused from failing showers.. Rust. (insanity obviously but that is the only thing I can figure). Because Kerdi is designed for the do-it-yourself type. I put in a Kerdi shower about 4 years ago in my own house. They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden. Below you will learn the effects and common cause of shower failure. I even use it around tubs with no shower. I gotta do it perfectly and if the Kerdi system is the best way to go, I am all for it. I'm diein' of anticipation here!!!! It was 1998… in October when my wife Judy and I set up housekeeping in Englewood, Florida.  We were coming from a short stay in Missouri and before that Colorado.  I had told the store owners I Read More ... Often, the questions we get most frequently after we install a beautiful new floor are about tile care–Everyone wants to keep their tile looking as great as it does when it is newly finished. The Schluter®-Shower System eliminates the risk of failures due to water and vapor penetration and dramatically reduces total installation time. I wonder if all you kerdi fans know that you only get a one year warranty LOL? I'm sure you ripped apart showers before Bill, first you bash the #### out of stuff then try to dissect it to see what went wrong. The one for my area did demo's at some of the tile stores so I watched a full shower demo and could ask him questions and see it done in person. Please tell me it's worth the money because I am having a hard time justifying the money for some tape together membrane a few sheets of plastic with square dimples. The most common method is to install a shower pan liner at the framing stage. edit edit...lol...wait wait...heard he's calling out the RedGard...bwahahaha, oh gawd...stop me...please...lol...and I also heard he called out his Wonder Board and they're trying to get Hardi Back as well...oy vey...nite***, Edited 2/13/2009 11:20 pm ET by andybuildz, Edited 2/13/2009 11:21 pm ET by andybuildz, Edited 2/13/2009 11:23 pm ET by andybuildz. I'll second John Bridge's ebook. The shower kits had over 100% markups we fixed that and made them reasonable. Note: The Schluter drain Kit includes 4 inside and 2 outside corners, and 1 pipe seal with 3/4″ opening and a large mixing valve seal. How about a free estimate? First, the Schluter®-KERDI-DRAIN is installed in conjunction with either a sloped mortar bed or the Schluter®-KERDI-SHOWER-T/-TS/-TT prefabricated foam trays. The Schluter Shower System is an integrated family of products that together form a fully bonded, watertight assembly for tiled wet-areas The Trugard Wet-area Arrangement removes the danger of failures due to water and vapor penetration and significantly reduces overall installation time. The Schluter system in the shower is clean and life lasting but most importantly 100% water tight. The last part of the Schulter shower system is the shower tray. Meanwhile Schlüter®-KERDI-LINE is a component linear drainage system for the construction of floor level showers with ceramic tiles, natural stone, or other coatings. So i bought the saw with the guide, best thing since beer. uncoupling membranes, Schluter ®-Shower System, ... arising out of or otherwise connected to the failure of a Thin-Set System, regardless of any strict liability or active or passive negligence of Schluter Systems, and regardless of legal theory, whether in contract, tort, extra-contractual or other. Some more of the symptoms include, discoloration around the bottom of the shower. You wrote something that had me scratching my head because I wasn't sure what you meant. "Just out of curiosity, why the strong response to the thread title?". It seems to me, with just basic care with the installation, the Schulter system is pretty much bullet-proof. I gotta put something back there and want to know if the Kerdi system is the right product. We have puddling in one corner of the shower. I was confident of the chlorolay when I installed it and would use it again for some things without hesitation.. The anchoring fleece on the underside of Schluter-DITRA-XL is engaged in the mortar to provide a mechanical bond to the substrate. Thanks for the reply. It is the best way I know to provide waterproofing and vapor management to keep the water where it belongs. I didn't buy the prefab floor, used mud and kerdi on top with a kerdi drain. I am 98% sure the installer did everything way wrong but maybe I missed something. Never had an issue with it. Additionally, I have one contractor quote me that he'll use the Schluter system for the shower base and floor but not the shower wall? Why?I mean, I like a good building detail as much as the next guy, but don't you think it strange to get up in arms over someone who wants to use 19.2" OC stud spacing or fibermesh in place of rebar in concrete? Shower Pan Liner holding water.. we should be happy, but we’re not. Schluter®-Shower System The Schluter®-Shower System is an integrated family of products that creates a “sealed” system. - M.K. Please log in again. Still use 15# felt for housewrap; and prefer aluminised kraft over poly VB. (he put the kerdi on with thinset but not the tile). I already emailed shluter for the Cd this morning because I could not find a video link on the website. Free Kerdi for everyone! having holes in kerdi would be like holes in shingles and saying elk shingles failed. What is everyones experience with the stuff. I have used Kerdi and think it a great product. If money isn't that much of an object go Ditra. As best i could tell, there were areas in the Kerdi where it was either cut or butted together. The installation failed. First, the Schluter®-KERDI-DRAIN is installed in conjunction with either a sloped mortar bed or the Schluter®-KERDI-SHOWER-T/-TS/-TT prefabricated foam trays. "A stripe is just as real as a dadgummed flower.". Yeah, schulter can be wrong but when the product is installed with butted corners and with holes, etc. Wow, I know where I'm getting my Kerdi from now on. Decks Blog, Just an aside-the corners are included in the drain kit. This Limited Warranty further The shower I did is 3x4x8' high and the materials cost about $350, with some left over. Festool, neat but pricy. I normally just do the bottom 6" and around the seats with vinyl but this shower was leaking everywhere and there is no way I am going to put something back that leaks. Hasn't leaked and I see no reason for it to leak....EVER. I have never used it and am redoing a 900 sq/ft cabin into a 2200 sq/ft custome cabin. Napagirl, it's a little more work, but what people have had success doing is … Just out of curiosity, why the strong response to the thread title? They do make a 5'x5' pan (actually it's 6'x6'). I’ve seen thousands of showers and have learned where to look for signs of shower failure. I am putting in Travertine floor to ceiling with a rain shower head. This was in Englewood. We did all the baths and kitchen, and slate floor with Schluter products, strictly according to directions, and so far (3 yrs)it is great. It's a fine product. I believe any product can and will fail when installed improperly however when done properly it is better than anything else. They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden. They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden. The KERDI-DRAIN provides a simple and secure connection to And some of those projects were installations over pretty marginal substrates; I get a lot of those up here in old summer cottages people have 'winterised' to use all year round. KERDI-FIX can be used to waterproof pipe and valve protrusions in the Schluter®-Shower System in conjunction with the Schluter®-KERDI membrane and Schluter®-KERDI-BOARD. After all waterproofing is completed, I tested the system by flooding the shower pan (called a flood test) to confirm it does not leak. Some of the original floors are not that solid and when i tile i want it right. The Schluter shower system offers a lot of value to the home. The system, correctly applied, solves so many problems common to traditional systems.John Bridge sells a very good e-book on using Kerdi that was most helpful to me in my first Kerdi job. You would think the guy insulted the collective grandmother or something. So, the water wicks up the drywall behind the tile, cement board also allows moisture to wick, it doesn’t get damaged but allows the wood behind it to be damaged. A Gf sounds great.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks. I think Wedi is more like Festool. Please find a way to re-title the thread. First let me tell you why it’s important to understand if your shower is failing. Schluter®-Shower System The Schluter®-Shower System is an integrated family of products that creates a “sealed” system. We've done three showers so far and have one more next month and each time the client has opted to spend the bucks with Kerdi. Nothing's cheap, is it? This video illustrates how the damage occurs, check it out.. It’s not all pretty but needs to told! The HYDRO-BLOK system was developed to provide you with a convenient and hassle-free way to build and customize the shower of your dreams. He says that because it is Schluter the only way to fix it is to rip out the entire pan. I did go up 6 feet on all the walls, so I used extra material. "The ditra would be much easier than installing Vinyl panning all over the walls, etc. "Amendment to the bill allows mastic to be used with Kerdi. And, oh never mind, but we NEVER photograph our own screwups!!! The math just isn't working for me. We also find nails thru the vinyl on top of the curbs. From drains pipes to wet-area benches to waterproofing pipeline seals, Trugard … Yay! I use it on any shower job I do. These shower failures are why we have embraced Schluter Systems for waterproofing your showers. I priced it on tileprotection.com and their cost delivered is $572.99! The last lead pan I did was in my own house in 1985. Shower System Shower & Tub Kits The choices can be endless when it comes to a tiled bathroom project, but finding all of the essential waterproofing elements to complete the project need not be overwhelming. Thanks for the tip...........To All: By the way, we up charge the client when using Kerdi. ". Then stock the Hardi board but not in 8 foot lengths. Here is a pic of the drinks in the breakroom. I prefer a TARP to waterproof the shower. And the good news is that tile care is simpler than you might think! Wow, I think the four of us need girlfriends or something... Yeah, my wife is snoring next to me. and Joe Bidet.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks. Posted onMarch 19, 2017February 2, 2019AuthortilemannLeave a comment. BTW Kerdi is great stuff. The last bozo put the tile on with mastic. UpDate: 12/05/2009 Home from the party. LI's OK...still long...still expensive...still has water around it...even cows n hay n potatoes... Far as Ditra goes...you need to be sure the floor is solid and I like it at a minimum of 1 1/4" thick of subfloor. Thanks for the reply, a little late getting back to read these things. Price isn't always an object as long as I feel it will not fail. I recon it matters as Shluter says to use thinset, but do you know why? I never use unmodified. Call me cheap, but I believe that I can put a torch down rubber membrane up the entire wall for less than 100$ and not end up with leaks either. I thot you weren't going out skiing for a coupla weeks, or I would have hurried up and mounted those bindings on Audrey's new tele skis! Schillings carries what you need to complete your bathroom and shower remodel/installation. I knew about the kerdi but it seemed to good to be true so I stayed away. Anyways, what do you have to do to seal the patch. Nice, but $$$$$.Kerdi's sort of halfway there. The contractor used the Kerdi system and there is a Schluter drain at the bottom (have not ripped that out yet) but the system leaked all over the place. It’s a good system if done well and their instructions are followed. I just emailed Shluter to get more info on the product so that I can understand it and perhaps rebuild this shower with it-properly! Or thinset directly to the rubber?? Get complete site access to expert advice, how-to videos, Code Check, and more, plus the print magazine. It's one of those things that makes ya' wonder.... can this be right? You can find it on his website.Bill. If you have the time, patience and enough skill to put this shower together, you’ll find it saves you a lot of money in the long run. I have no clue how to request post to be changed but thanks for the feedback. I got the 32"x60" kit and did the mudbed on the sides to get the 3' I wanted. Which is really a sad commentary on the slob who put it in. I am getting a sense that people have had good success with it so am thinking I would like to try it. The Schluter®-Shower System eliminates the risk of failures due to water and vapor penetration and dramatically reduces total installation time. Shower Failure occurs in 75% of Tiled Showers.. Mann Tile – Celebrating 5 Years in Englewood! Chuck Slive, work, build, ...better with wood, I agree that the thread title is misleading. It always seems to be Hardi. Bad product? The shower is such that a mud pan will be easier than trying to fit their pregaged stuf fin place and I am quite comfortable gaging the shower. The stuff looks pretty cool, actually, and I read all about it after day one and it would be easier than vinyl up the walls. I'm cheap and made myself. If you haven't worked with Kerdi, BUY and read the book.. To navigate through our assortment, choose from the following product areas. I am pretty sure the guy messed up the install but want some good feedback from people so that I can be a little smarter about it. No problems at all; not even a hint of trouble. i hate hate hate going behind slobs and cleaning up their messes. Complement your shower drain with a matching SHELF. Nah....I get what he means...cept we all know it was Bush's fault : )~. We stock everything from shower heads and body sprays, shower trim, and even shower installation systems. But the price of thinset has been tripled!Amendment to the bill allows mastic to be used with Kerdi. It is your choice naturally but I am not smarter than Schluter and unmodified is available and workable. Termite damage due to the shower failing.. ... recommendations and my educated guess would be Schluter would definitely not guarantee against water damage or failure of their system. Google Eases Rules for Smart-Home Developers, Micro-Adjust Deck-Baluster Spacing for an Eye-Deceiving Layout, Podcast 330: Anniversary Edition Interview With Patrick McCombe, Plus, get an extra 20% off with code GIFT20, Simple Way to Make Old Walls Straight and Plumb, Expert insights on techniques and principles. No it DOESN't have to be unmodified thinset. Superb Read More ... Our Story of Mann Tile in Englewood… The story of how we opened Mann Tile in Englewood, FL. Jon Blakemore RappahannockINC.com Fredericksburg, VA. >>Call me cheap, but I believe that I can put a torch down rubber membrane up the entire wall for less than 100$ and not end up with leaks either. We give them option one, the old chloraloy vinyl liner, NOT guaranteed, or Kerdi with a five year guarantee for $1,500.00 bucks more. The KERDI-DRAIN provides a simple and secure Its the Darn mastic lobby. edit: oh yeh...and landed smack dab in Ditra's lap!! "I have learned so much thanks to the searchable articles on the FHB website. I ‘ve always used vinyl and durrock (or Hardi) and knock wood, never had any issues. Except that time we fumigated a doctor's operating room by mistake while a patient was on the table. Please choose your country or language to be directed to the website of the corresponding subsidiary. Great question! It's Gore's fault. Each system got better, and now we even get a year warranty! Also for those who care. from TileProtection.com. Of course, I might not have clicked on it if it was labeled correctly, "Installer botches Kerdi installation.". Schluter®-Shower System The Schluter®-Shower System is an integrated family of products that creates a “sealed” system. It’s What’s Inside Your Shower That Counts. Q. If the stuff is that good, I would love to re-use it in this application because the shower configuration is such that the walls and wall caps will get constant water flow. It is the best way I know to provide waterproofing and vapor management to keep the water where it belongs. So I've bought in to the Schluter thing as well, I'm just wondering if anyone has an installation that's more than 5 years old? I've been reading your forum and it sounds like you can help me out. http://forums.taunton.com/tp-breaktime/messages?msg=86714.1. Done lots of them in the past. We perform shower redo’s and tub-to-shower conversions as well as new installations of showers.. Schluter Systems allows us to provide you with a 10 Year Material and Labor Warranty. Watch as they renovate this small bathroom for accessibility and achieve a perfect slope that leads right to the drain because of the curbless design. Some of you may find it difficult to get in your local stores like I do and I live on Long Island and there's no shortage of stores here...just a heads up, *1/4" x 3/16" (6 mm x 4 mm) V-notched trowel*. I agree that the Kerdi did not fail. I just ripped out my sister in laws shower. What they claim is that their system is waterproof. Kerdi showers are 100% waterproof when properly installed. And, I think that last one is the worst, because it can cause; sinus trouble, headaches, and sickness. I did make mistakes, real easy to build up corners too much, especially in my niches. I was trying to find overlaps after mashing out tile and peeling tile from the Kerdi backing and wanting to understand why it failed. I think next time I'll solve some of that by making the thinset a little wetter than normal. HYDRO-BLOK is the easiest, quickest and most user-friendly way to build a water-proof shower or tub surround at a price you can afford. Decks Blog. I just ripped out my sister in laws shower. I know how much he doesn't know about my expertise so I don't really trust much he promotes). I use Versabond which isn't "heavily" modified. It appears to be the one wall opposite the diverter where all the water hits and I can only guess he was running out of material and did not want to buy more so patched it in poorly with scraps. See photos 1 and 2 there? The main drawback is that you need to be careful to avoid too much buildup at the overlaps in the corners. The trays can be modified by cutting to a custom size, or you can use a dry-pack mortar bed. UPS delivered the materials for my first Kerdi shower (preformed pan, drain, membrane, etc.) After calling the contractor back he identified a slight hump in the pan tile (1/2″ penny round)between the curb and the drain. The thing I see repeated over and over is the failure of Kerdi to adhere to "hardi". The kit was $829.00 locally. In 12 minutes it will be Valentine's Day.FWIW. L GardenStructure.com~Build for the Art of it! The biggest clue that you have moisture behind your tile is rusty corner bead and bubbling paint on the outside corners of your shower. Use the stuff it is great. (Not getting paid much for the job so mideswell make it a learning experience), It just doesnt make sense to me why the installer just blatantly left holes in the kerdi and did not overlap. "doesn't seem like a good idea to show pics of yer own work that's failed? I am likely buying it by the roll and will buy corners as well. Schlüter-Systems offers an assortment of over 10 000 proven system solutions for the installation of tiles and natural stone. However, in this picture and the next there are a few errors in this construction, can you spot them? After restricting access to the Nest thermostat in 2019, Google has a change of heart. Designed for tiled walls, these brushed stainless steel shelves can be installed either in tandem with the tile, or as a retrofit application—without the need for any screws or fasteners. window.addEventListener && window.addEventListener("message", function(event){if (event.origin === "https://manntile.youcanbook.me"){document.getElementById("ycbmiframemanntile").style.height = event.data + "px";}}, false); CategoriesSchluter, Showers, Wall Tile, Waterproofing. However, with the use of a modern uncoupling system, these problems can be prevented. … And all this moisture invites termites and it smells real bad too. From drains to shower benches to waterproofing pipe seals, Schluter®-Systems offers everything you need to … Hey, A cardboard box lined with Kerdi. 1 1/2 years old. Also in one of the pictures below, the installer framed a 2x4 and plywood diagonal shower bench on top of the liner. You obviously do that before the kerdi and you just use the kit tray pitch as a guide and continue it. No hope. It's of note that I came home about 20 minutes ago to a pile of boxes at my front door. I really dont think I would have gotten the same response if I changed the posting. LGardenStructure.com~Build for the Art of it! Only if it is instructive to others. They both work great. I clicked on the thread because I thought the kerdi failed, and I thought the title was terribly misleading (even before reading the other comments). There are way better ways to do this. What do you think? They are incredibly common and are the most visually apparent symptom of an installation failure. As far as the Schluter Kerdi Shower System goes, they have good videos and instructions for their system. If you're interested in a non-DIY method then you can either hire a professional to install it or you can take a look at the Vigo shower enclosure . I've delayed this one for that reason. I used to fish off montaque for shark, loved every seasick day of it. Come to think of it I can't remember a single time we screwed up. Nothing like striking fear to get your point across! I installed a new shower with granite on the walls and glass tile on the floor - the glass is 3/4" x 3/4". Mike Holmes celebrates in Canada with a cartilage piercing and new bib overalls". Now I look at cows and corn, i sure miss being near the water. And, how much per square foot is Kerdi? The chloraloy liner if done properly usually causes no problems. 8.3 Schluter®-KERDI-FIX is a single-component, waterproof sealing and bonding compound with a silane-modified polymer base. First, the Schluter ®-KERDI-DRAIN is installed in conjunction with either a sloped mortar bed or the Schluter®-KERDI-SHOWER-ST prefabricated foam tray. How now, Mighty Sauron, that thou art not broughtlow by this? After logging in you can close it and return to this page. Many retailers complained to Schluter, many Tile Suppliers like Dal Tile complained on us, We have withstood the storm for 5 years. Here's an old Kerdi picture thread I did a couple of years ago. The contractor used the Kerdi system and there is a Schluter drain at the bottom (have not ripped that out yet) but the system leaked all over the place. The KERDI-DRAIN provides a simple and secure I thought it was a whole "system" to work together to prevent water penetration (?). The Mastic absorbs moisture, and will mold and rot. Just ripped it out and did a Kerdi. They won't give you the warrantee but big deal...warrantee is only one year anyway and I know the Versabond is fine to use. I contacted them yesterday and they are sending video (you might have read that). I show them several pictures of the rot and mold behind the vinyl pan repair jobs we have done and a few of the kerdi during installation. (It’s 4’x5′). The truth is though, that if installed correctly there should not be any issues with using this type of shower pan. Unfortunately, I don't have that choice.... Gotta go eat supper; I got delayed reading Diesel's thread about his tools getting stolen. When this water is not headed down the drain it’s causing trouble for you! I can confidently say that I expect to be a life-long subscriber." The idea is to have nothing that is moisture sensitive or that can feed mold between the shower and the rest of your house. It must be UNmodified thinset. Because the entire system is waterproof, Schluter recommends the surface material behind the membrane to be standard drywall. So the actual flaw in the system is with the installers and inspectors and their lack of knowledge, not the system itself. Git runned right out of the place! doesn't seem like a good idea to show pics of yer own work that's failed? ""...the old chloraloy vinyl liner..."" 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